32 thoughts on “NBC fires Olympic analyst after comments infuriate South Korea

  1. ChopinPianist February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    Don’t take this the wrong way, but I do feel sometimes these folks are on meds during broadcasting. Hearing Katie Couric talk about the Dutch’s ability to skate due to the canals freezing over….it’s like they’re just on air saying THINGS just to say them. (I realize this is how general news works, but not Olympic broadcasting). And then everyone is completely wtf’d, and 20 years go by and they’re still on the air saying these things.

  2. glassjar1 February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    I heard that statement during the opening ceremonies and …. !?

    I speak Korean, and lived there at a time (early ’80s) when meeting another caucasian outside of Seoul, Pusan, or a military base was extremely rare. That statement would have been infuriating to anyone I knew at the time. There was a strong cultural memory of a deadly and brutal Japanese occupation. Japanese Manga was sold illegally to young people on the black market because it was illegal to import anything printed in the country.

    I remember an instance when visiting Pusan when an elderly Japanese lady approached me in a panic trying to find out if I spoke her language. She was distressed, lost, and alone. I don’t speak Japanese, but anyone who had been alive during WWII or before would have been forced to speak it in public and in school. (Anyone her age.)

    The streets were packed and she approached people that probably had at least a rudimentary ability to communicate with her. No one even noticed she existed–which is a more acceptable cultural response than telling someone that you won’t/can’t help them.

    Yeah, I’d say his comments might have been just a little off putting.

  3. Habanero_Eyeball February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    > “It was possible for him to do more with us here; now it is no longer possible,” an NBC official told Korea Times.

    I wish the IOC would say that about NBC

  4. mjohnsimon February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    Can we just agree that NBC really screwed up with the Olympics?

  5. TractorMash February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    The best analogy would be if at, say, the BET Awards, an announcer started talking about a group of white folks seated at a table and said something like, “In America, white people enslaved African Americans for several centuries. But every African American will tell you that white people are a cultural, technological and economic example that has been so important to their own transformation.”

  6. tastydorito February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    Trying to give Japan credit for SK’s economic success (esp. with the older generation who lived through the occupation / cultural genocide, etc) is a fucking sham. Glad to see him fired.

  7. Nevermind04 February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    They should fire all of them for not shutting the fuck up. Commentary does not mean talking non-stop for hours; it means providing short little comments about something interesting that a viewer might want to know.

  8. GotDatWMD February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    This guy sits on the boards of companies, co-CEO of Henry Kissinger’s consulting firm, and doesn’t have a basic grasp of Japan-Korean history that everyone knows.

  9. KingCannibal February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    Can we all collectively fire NBC now?

  10. ThereAreNoTeams February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    Imagine how awesome the Olympics would be if they fired all their commentators

  11. bargman February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    The Japanese attempted to obliterate the culture. All Koreans were forced to take Japanese names. It was illegal to write in Korean script. A whole generation of Korean girls(edit: between 100,000 to 300,000) were made sex slaves. The younger generation finds the Chinese more annoying, but that sort of oppression doesn’t get forgotten after 70 years, no matter how interdependent your economies may be.

  12. tidderhs February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    What the hell was this idiot doing commentary on the Olympic opening ceremony for in the first place?
    Here in the UK we have actual sports commentators doing the job on the BBC and they do a fantastic job.
    Maybe NBC should take a page out of the BBC’s book because from what I’ve been reading the last couple of days their coverage is pathetic.

  13. Steve490 February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    This ongoing NBC/Korea/Japan snafu has been the most entertaining part of the games so far.

    “Oh no, NBC fell over *another* hurdle, after trying so hard!”

    -(*this is a fake Olympics like quote mocking NBC for my amusement since some are confused. 1st hurdle was intial Japan comment about occupation during opening ceremony which was really funny, insulting, and out of place. 2nd hurdle was the scandal this post was made for, even funnier! Sorry if some were confused.*)

    edit:I love the Olympics and America I promise. I just like jokes and laughing at commentators and their mistakes too…

  14. Fthat_ManaBar February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    As Mark twain once said it is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than it is to open it and remove all doubt.

  15. looshfarmer February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    “while working as co-CEO of former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger’s consulting firm….”

    Well there you go.

    On another note, that Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel exposé on how badly US athletes are treated is fucking shocking.

  16. g-dragon February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    yeeaaahh korea’s still super pissed about that whole… japanese occupation thing. especially since japan doesn’t formally recognize all the terrible shit they did.

  17. Karkava February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    Thanks NBC, for reinforcing the ignorant, narcissistic American stereotype that we now have to put up with.

  18. deerokus February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    Why the fuck is some random business guy commentating on the Olympics anyway? In the UK it’s usually a professional commentstor paired with someone who used to be a sportsperson. For the opening ceremony it was a famous ice skater.

  19. sportsdude486 February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    This guy was so annoying. He kept saying “oh this is a huge part of Asian culture”. You have to think that NBC could have hired someone better than someone whose best effort was to massively overgeneralize all of Asia into one homogeneous culture. And Katie Couric sucks too

  20. 666666666 February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    sounds like something someone associated with Kissinger would say.

  21. tobixice February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    that guy deserved to be fired. he generalized a lot about Asian culture while acting like he was some expert.

  22. GarrusBueller February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    Maybe he can analyze history with his free time now

  23. nsjersey February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    Did I say Korea? Oh I meant *Taiwan*. It was Taiwan that really loved their Japanese colonization /s

  24. edwarddestiny February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    if NBC would just not talk for the next 5 fucking days, i’d be happy. instead, i avoid the Olympics.

  25. hiandlois February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    He said: Japan ruled Korea with an iron fist from 1910 to 1945 in a bloody occupation that still strikes a raw nerve.

    “Every Korean will tell you that Japan is a cultural, technological and economic example that has been so important to their own transformation,” said Ramo, who sits on the board of Starbucks SBUX, +1.51% and FedEx FDX, -1.65% while working as co-CEO of former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger’s consulting firm.

    That’s a bad move to ignore all those deaths and rapes of the Japanese and Koreans.

  26. Caroleann2 February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    I have a Korean American friend in L.A. (he’s 40 now) who married a Japanese American woman and his father disowned him for it. If he sees his father in a restaurant or on the street the father literally walks past him as if he doesn’t exist. That’s how much the older generation of Koreans hate the Japanese. It’s really radical. I had no idea. I’m Jewish but I don’t hate German people, nor do my elderly parents (my Dad was in WWII), or anyone else in my family. It’s hard to relate but apparently the wounds of past atrocities have not healed. It’s on a whole other level.

  27. SBGenius February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    The Japanese-Korean-Chinese relations is an extremely complex and tangled web of politics. There are multiple sides with very different takes on historical events that it can be hard to fully grasp each side’s ideologies. I’m saying this as a Taiwanese person (who’s got it’s own complex relations with China and Japan).

    I usually don’t put the onus on a typical American for not understanding the complexities of this topic. Honestly, if you’re not exposed to these things on a regular basis, it’s going to be tough for you to get your facts straight. If someone not that familiar with these issues makes a slip-up… honestly, no biggie. Learn from your mistakes and if you feel the need to have an opinion on the overall issue, get yourself better educated.

    But this guy… who already had no business on being a commentator and who I’m sure was brought on due to his supposed foreign-relations knowledge… yea, sorry, the onus is on you dude. If you have the balls to be an authoritative voice on the matter for a whole fucking country’s television broadcast, you better get your facts straight.

  28. FlickerAndFlicker February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    “Every Korean will tell you that Japan is a cultural and technical and economic example that has been so important to their own transformation,” Ramo said.

    From the [WashingtonTimes](https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/11/jnbc-apologizes-south-korea-over-joshua-cooper-ram/)
    >An online petition quickly circulated demanding an apology, and NBC did on its NBCSN cable network Saturday and formally to the Pyeongchang Olympic organizing committee.

    >Japan occupied Korea from 1910 to 1945. Petitioners said anyone familiar with Japanese treatment of Koreans during that time would be deeply hurt by Ramo’s remark. They also criticized the accuracy of giving Japan credit for South Korea’s resurgence.

    >The petition had more than 10,000 supporters on Sunday.

    >”We believe that staying silent is not an appropriate response to such ignorant, insensitive, and harmful information that defies the very spirit of peace, harmony, and human dignity of the Olympics,” it said.

  29. HawkinsT February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    At least they’ve got their Dutch knowledge down.

  30. atheitarian February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    I’m one of the last people who gives a shit about being PC, but saying that about Korea while in Korea would be like going to Israel and saying on the news that the Jews really look to the Germans as models for post- WWII recovery. It’s a boneheaded thing to say. If you’ve spent any time in Korea, you know that they haven’t forgotten how Japan fucked them royally before WWII.

  31. permatway February 12, 2018 / 12:36 pm

    You’d think someone who is co-CEO of Henry Kissinger’s consulting firm would ***at least be able to imagine*** lingering resentments between a former occupying country and a former occupied country.

    But after reflecting a bit, it made perfect sense that this guy in particular would say something so asinine.

    Robert McNamara in the documentary *The Fog of War* relates an episode of when he met with Võ Nguyên Giáp after the Vietnam War. When McNamara told Giáp the war was necessary on the viewpoint of the US Government to prevent the consolidation of a Communist monolithic global empire, Giáp angrily responded that “he must have never held a history book” and (I’m paraphrasing badly here) that if he had he would have known that his country would never allow themselves to again be pawns to the Chinese and that they had been fighting for their independence for a thousand years and would gladly fight for another thousand years. And that if people in the US Government had known this, war could have been avoided.

    These fucking people are all from the same era, and that’s why this guy would say that ‘Koreans are grateful to Japan for the occupation.’ Because they don’t care to distinguish one Asian from another – as far as they’re concerned, they are all the same and they all love each other and Asian history is just four thousand years of Asians happily buttfucking each other.

    If it’s not old school racism, it’s old school Eurocentrism.

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