19 thoughts on “Russia demands nerve agent samples in standoff with UK over poisoned spy

  1. Thymdahl March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    The Brits should absolutely comply with their demands and send Putin a personal sample.

  2. alternate-source-bot March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    Here are some other articles about this story:

    * BBC: [Russian spy: Deadline for Moscow over spy poison attack](http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43377856)
    * CNN: [Poisoning of Russian spy raises troubling questions](https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/europe/salisbury-analysis-npw-intl/index.html)
    * The Denver Post: [Russia “highly likely” behind ex-spy’s poisoning – The Denver Post](https://www.denverpost.com/2018/03/12/theresa-may-russia-behind-spy-poisoning/)
    * newsweek.com: [Blaming Russia? White House Refuses to Name State Actor Behind UK Nerve Agent Attack—Unlike State Department](http://www.newsweek.com/white-house-refuses-blame-russia-nerve-agent-attack-842054)
    * The Hill: [The Memo: British spy drama echoes through Washington](http://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/378047-the-memo-british-spy-drama-echoes-through-washington)


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  3. alasdairgray March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    Yeaah, *the Parliament will discuss that tomorrow.*

  4. trigger888 March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    Special standards seem to apply when it comes to Russian violence. They get away with murder because, well, *they’re Russians*. Sometimes it is mass murder. The world doesn’t stand up to them. We desperately want them to become “normal” but that is just not them.

  5. badassmthrfkr March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    >Russia’s foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, said during a televised press conference earlier that Russia was not responsible for the poisoning and demanded that Britain seek to mediate the case under the chemical weapons convention.

    >“We have already made our statement on this case,” he said. “Russia is ready to cooperate in accordance with the convention to ban chemical weapons if the United Kingdom will deign to fulfil its obligations according to the same convention.”

    >In his remarks, Lavrov said that **under the convention, Russia would have 10 days to reply to an official accusation by the UK over the use of a banned substance within its borders.**

    That sounds like a reasonable request. Why not give them the samples and hear what they have to say? Even if it turns out to be total BS, it’s only 10 days wasted which really isn’t that big of a deal since punitive measures aren’t really time-sensitive.

  6. Mackadelik March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    So many posts saying that this particular nerve agent with polonium could be made anywhere. I thought I heard/read that military grade radiative materials can actually be traced to very specific locations of where they were enriched/made. Is it possible it came from somewhere else? Maybe, but shouldn’t something so controlled and traceable also essentially leave “fingerprints?”

  7. cheifminecrafter March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    Now ideally, Porton Down should have proof it was Novichok, and samples of that proof.

    Provide them, see Russia have to either admit it… or find another excuse.

  8. autotldr March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/13/russia-demands-nerve-agent-samples-uk-deadline-spy-poisoning) reduced by 91%. (I’m a bot)
    > Russia has summoned the UK's ambassador to Moscow to protest against accusations that it ordered last week's nerve agent attack in Salisbury and to warn that any British sanctions against Russia would be answered in kind.

    > A foreign ministry statement said it had summoned Laurie Bristow, the British ambassador, to also declare that Russia would not comply with Theresa May's demand that it explain its role until the Russian government had been given samples of the nerve agent that left Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, critically ill.

    > In his remarks, Lavrov said that under the convention, Russia would have 10 days to reply to an official accusation by the UK over the use of a banned substance within its borders.

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  9. imatworksoshhh March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    Honest question, other than an Ex Russian spy being poisoned with a Nerve agent, how do we know it’s Russia? I get it sounds like something they would do and it probably was something they did but I want the boring facts!

  10. Cydoni March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    UK: Ok here is the nerve agent sample we found
    R: What nerve agent sample?

  11. just_some_guy65 March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    I think this is actually a reasonable request, asserting something without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

  12. kellysmith March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    Most usernames ending in numbers are shills.

  13. dflq March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    They want a sample? How about Putin gets a sample right in his fucking face.

  14. wakeupdolores March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    Only way Russia can investigate the origin is to be provided with samples. You can’t really expect Russia to just take a wild guess at the origin?

  15. C3PD2 March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    So, after doing some research I’ve got a few questions.

    In 1991 knowledge of a series of nerve gas agents known as “Novichok” came to light. The same year the United States was commissioned by Uzbekistan to decontaminate and dismantle the factory in which Novichok was being produced.

    So, are we being lead to believe that in 27 years no other country managed to figure out how Novichok was synthesized? The UK Defence Science and Technology Laboratory has a definitive test for a Novichok agent but they don’t know how to make it?

    Am I crazy here or does that all make no sense? I find it hard to believe that Western Countries were comfortable knowing Russia was the only one with access to the most deadly nerve agent ever created for nearly 30 years without figuring it out themselves.

    Edit: People, not all posts with “Russia” in them are bots and shills. Some of us just like to do our own research and ask questions. I have no theories nor am I making assumptions about who carried out the assassination attempts.

  16. Yabberdabberdooo March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    As a U.K. citizen Russia is right in asking for the evidence. We do have a long history of manipulating evidence and for some reason our influence has allowed us to get away with it for so long. Deep down I think we all know it was a Russian sanctioned attack but they aren’t stupid it’ll be passed off as a tit for tat. U.K. said they did it, Russia saying they didn’t, a man a crime committed with no punishment.

  17. echostar777 March 14, 2018 / 10:20 am

    It would make sense to send a sample, if anything, the internet can be a very dark place when it comes to tutorials on how to make dangerous chemicals.
    There is no point in “pointing the finger” which could potentially result in making things worse with dire consequences.

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