26 thoughts on “Russian plane missing after Moscow take off

  1. Orri February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    I was watching my BBC news feed and it basically went from “Plane missing” to “plane has crashed, there are no expected survivors” in a few seconds (on my feed anyway).

    Crazy. RIP.

  2. ColStalkie February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    It’s not even clear right now if there was crew and cargo or crew and passengers. But they already found remains of 2 people. And rescue team can’t properly work since there is a lot of snow.

    Edit: 60+ people confirmed, no survivors were found atm

    Edit2: plane was 8 y.o., so pretty new

    Edit3: it’s the second time in history AN-148 crashes. First time was in 2011, the reason was a mistake of the crew

    Edit4: right now there is two versions, cockpit error or a weather-related incident

    Edit5: there was at least 1 child on the plane

    Edit6: ~~[deleted this because it was a copy of the another Edit, eh]~~

    Edit7: unconfirmed, but some some sources state that it seems like plane started crashing while still in the air. Parts of the plane can be found along the path of the aircraft

    Edit8: !! Interfax: **aircraft collided with a helicopter**

    Edit9: allegdly it was a helicopter of ‘Russian Post’. People say there are lots of envelopes near the crash scene

    Edit10: Russian Post denies that they have any helicopters at all right now.

    Edit11: **they found debris from other unidentified aircraft** (only reported by one news agency)

    Edit12: once again, **Russian Post denies any connections to the tragedy**. Now they say that they only use Tu-204 (statement in edit9 was probably made by a different spokesperson)

    Edit13: they’re using tractors to clean up area from the snow, so special machinery can get to the crash site

    Edit14: **engine stop and following explosion** might be the cause of the accident

    Edit15: they’re using drones to find flight data recorders

    Edit16: it took an hour for rescuers and medics to get to the crash site. they were had to literally walk through snow.

    **Edit17: The pilot ~~told the flight controllers about some malfunction and~~ was supposed to land at different airport.**

    Edit18: it really doesn’t matter at this point, but Russian Post confirmed that there was a small package with envelopes on the aircraft.

    Edit19: 65 people were on the plane. They released names already. Every time this happens, victims pages on social media receive huge amount of both insults and kind words. But the really shitty thing is that their pics will be used for stuff like “like if you’re sorry for death of this person”.

    Edit20: **Flight controller: “The plane took off in normal mode, it was given the permission to climb to the 110th flight level. Unexpectedly at the 70th flight level the aircraft began to go down and didn’t contact us or responded to us.”**

    Edit21: ~~the only minor on the plane was a 17 y.o. boy.~~

    Edit22: I misread original post about minors on the plane, sorry. There were three minors: 17 y.o. boy, 12 y.o. boy and 5 y.o. girl.

    Edit23: **Ministry of Emergency Situations: no helicopter debris found**. Edit11 is only reported by one news agency atm

    Edit24: ~~**Flight data recorders were found.**~~

    Edit25: All victims had insurance. Their relatives will receive two millions rubles (~$34000)

    Edit 26: **Plane crashed pretty near to the living area.**

    *Right now the only updates on the story is reactions of politicians. Like Putin canceled some appointments etc. I won’t be mentioning it.*

    Edit27: 12th of February is going to be an official day of mourning in Orenburg Oblast.

    Edit28: ~~**Some sources report that pilot in command decided not cover a plane with deicing fluid before the flight.**~~

    Edit29: **one citizen of Switzerland was on the plane**. I can’t find any Swiss names on the list though, so it may be naturalized citizen. He or she was supposed to visit oil refinery in Orsk.

    Edit30: Aight, guys, I’m going to leave now, but I’ll try to post an update, if something important happens in the next couple hours. Thanks for reading.

    Edit31: What emergency services thought was a flight data recorder turns out to be a piece of the engine

    Domodedovo airport emploees say that airctaft was actually covered in deicing fluid.

  3. TheHORN3TS February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    First commercial crash in over a year, yeah?

    Update for those new here. **seems that some people in the comments below are connecting this comment to president trump and also making jokes. Please stop. Any mass death tragedy is something to treat with a bit of sincerity and solemnity. I would have voted bernie sanders.

    My comment was more in reference to the timing since the last fatal commercial jet aircraft accident and reflects personal thoughts regarding system fragility. Air travel is one of those rare industries where over time there is progressive improvements in safety. ***

  4. visit_Mordor February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    Interfax already reports some bodies found. RIP.

  5. r721 February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    [Age 7.8 Years](https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Antonov/An-148/RA-61704-Saratov-Airlines/eRPqtG7)

    UPD1 Video from the crash site: https://twitter.com/BreakingMash/status/962672532682936321

    >The speed and altitude graph for flight #6W703 show a descent from 6200 feet to 3200 feet during the last minute before the ADS-B signal was lost about 20 km south-east of Domodedovo Airport.



    >Mchs Russian emergency service tells TASS no helicopter parts at Saratov airlines crash site; no signs of mid air collision as initially rumoured.


  6. TheManWithNoNam3 February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    That is very scary to think about, can’t imagine knowing your life is about to end and there is literally nothing that can change the outcome.

  7. PunkTheBrad February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    That’s terrible for everyone on board and their families, regardless of the cause. But I gotta say, that’s not a fun notification to get right before you board a plane to fly home…

  8. -flaneur- February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    With regard to a helicopter being involved – don’t helicopters typically travel at a low altitude (around 2000ft based on quick google search). From flightaware, it looks like the plane ran into trouble around 6200ft.

  9. QReader February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    List of crew and passengers:
    Klaeui ULRICH
    2 Aknazarov Tamerlane Turibekovich 30.11.1985
    3 Alekseenko Kriskentija Nicolayevna 01.10.1992
    4 Alexandrov Ilya 17.11.1965
    5 Anokhin Victor 15.01.1950
    6 Anokhina Zoya 19.08.1950
    7 Boykova Ekaterina M. 18.11.1995
    8 Bulatov Lily 30.07.1984
    9 Vediborenko Ilya Vladimirovich 22.11.1984
    10 Vedjakina Maria 09.04.1973
    11 Gauss Alpha Akzamovna 31.01.1946
    12 Gahramanov Namig 05.05.1971
    13 Grachev Alexey E. 10.09.1965
    14 Grishova Irina 21.09.1961
    15 Thunder Igor 24.06.1964
    16 Davydova Elena V. 25.04.1986
    17 Dimitrenko Julia 07.09.1988
    18 Dolbin Victor 05.09.1953
    19 Dragina Margarita 31.01.1948
    20 Ivanov Vyacheslav Anatolyevich 22.06.1986
    21 Ilyin Eugene 26.05.1986
    22 Kalashnik Marina Alexandrovna 09.02.1965
    23 Karmaleev Boris Alexandrovich 26.12.1938
    24 Karpukhin Anatoly 01.09.1949
    25 Karpukhina Tatiana 03.07.1950
    26 Kiseleva Ekaterina 22.08.1986
    27 Kovchuga Ludmila Sergeyevna 02.06.1964
    28 Kozupica Antonina Ivanovna 10.04.1962
    29 Kolodyazhny Anatoly 19.06.1966
    30 short Eugene 20.03.1978
    31 Krasova Nadezhda 24.12.2012
    32 Krasova Oksana 10.01.1986
    33 Kurepov Oleg 04.04.1968
    34 Leonova Olga 11.11.1982
    35 Lebanon Eugene 13.09.1979
    36 Lebanon Eugene 10.03.2005
    37 Machnev Svetlana 19.03.1978
    38 Meshcheriakova Natalia 04.05.1979
    39 Momzikova Christina 22.06.1994
    40 Nazarov Maxim 22.03.1985
    41 The cheese Ekaterina Pavlovna 13.05.1986
    42 Nikitenkova Galina 23.08.1988
    43 Nikitchanka Alexey 31.07.1988
    44 Nikolaenko Love Fominichna 10.07.1941
    45 Normantovich Alexander 12.09.1981
    46 Normantovich Vladimir 17.01.1958
    47 Panchenko Sergey 28.03.1973
    48 Flights Ilya Sergeyevich 27.07.2000
    49 Radchuk Inna Yevgenyevna 18.02.1975
    50 Remarchuk Vladimir 25.03.1990
    51 Sevojan Varsik 23.06.1970
    52 Sergoshko Alexander 03.11.1987
    53 Sinitsyna Tatiana 15.08.1966
    54 Dream of 10.05.1990
    55 A. Ilya 11.02.1985
    56 Tolkachev Vyacheslav 20.10.1961
    57 Tolkachev Ivan Vladimirovich 23.05.1983
    58 Tolkacheva Love 28.11.1960
    59 Tolmasova Darya 29.05.1995
    60 Tulkubaev Firgat Rinatovich 28.09.1993
    61 Urazaeva Marina 11.09.1977
    62 Usachev Vladimir Pavlovich 25.10.1970
    63 Khokhlova Olga 21.03.1983
    64 Cigichko Olga 16.04.1976
    65 Jamaev Yuri Rifovich 25.11.1974


    1 Gubanov Valery Ivanovich 23.02.1966
    2 Ghambaryan Sergey Arsenovich 14.05.1973
    3 Slavinskaja Anastasia v. 31.08.1988
    4 Koval Victoria Olegovna 12.11.1996
    5 Revyakin Andrey Abramovich 25.08.1968
    6 Sergeev Oleg Vladimirovich 13.07.1962

  10. Johnny_W94 February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    >The jet vanished from radar screens two minutes after it left Domodedovo Airport.

    How is it possible ? Only two minutes.

  11. Razzler1973 February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    I can’t even contemplate what it’s like to be involved in a plane crash or be in a plane with a fault or one that’s been hit or is falling.

    I shudder even thinking about it

  12. Sad-thoughts February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    I woke up and my power was out because someone crashed into a tree in my neighborhood. I have to get ready for work in the dark, and this:

    a) makes me feel like my problems are so small

    b) makes my day just a bit gloomier bc plane crashes are tragic.

    RIP to everyone on board.

  13. Brianlife February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    “In 2015 it (the airline) was banned from operating international flights when surprise inspectors found someone other than the flight crew was in the cockpit.”


  14. practicalist February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    6200 ft to 2900ft in 19 seconds, then no more data….

    This happened at about 7000 ft during climb out. Data points seems to be about 15-20 seconds apart. I think the data point at 6400 ft is the last “good” point. The next point is 6600ft, which is only 200ft higher. I think this point is either zero hero, or slightly after incident. The next point is 400 ft lower so this would appear to clearly be post incident. And then the final data point at 2900ft.

    I can also see a scenario where 4600ft data point going up is actually the last point pre incident. If you look at climb rates on the data points prior to that one, the climb rate was much higher. The climb rate drops to just over 1000 ft down from 1500, down from 2200. Even in first moment of flight climb rate was 1500. It looks like he does a turn which accounts for that one low 500ft climb rate reading, then is clearly climbing out at around 090 when it shows the 2298ft climb rate at 4600 ft. After that, they never seemed to continue a “normal” climb out or all the data points would be different.

    I am not a pilot but that seems too low for explosive decompression. It went straight down after that too. Even if it lost both engines it probably wouldn’t have gone down as fast as it did.

    I cant think of too many mechanical issues that would make a plane go straight down. The hard over rudder, but i thought that was fixed. Fire perhaps, but I would think it would have been a fire that reached the fuel tanks and the plan exploded as opposed to burning away and slowly losing controls until it was incapable of controlled flight. Stall gone horribly wrong? Very strange time for it. Explosive device is possible along same lines as fire that reached tanks, that would bring a plane straight down.

    Would love to hear a commercial pilot’s thoughts on that data and what scenarios come up in his/her mind.

  15. julia434 February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    I’m from Russia and it is so strange reading all these jokes about Putin and even some worse things. When something bad happens in USA I always feel sorry. Do all of you hate Russia so much or what? Idk maybe it’s stupid but I’m really surprised.

  16. RobustMarquis February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    I was reading a bbc article on this and it said the airline was banned internationally

    ” from operating international flights when surprise inspectors found someone other than the flight crew was in the cockpit.”


  17. getyoursleep February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    For all those who are scared of flying, and this affirms your fear, let it be known that [in 2017 there were zero commerical airline deaths](http://www.bbc.com/news/business-42538053) (this ignores military, cargo, and private planes, tbh I’d be too scared to get on too) which means that taking a public airline is safer than literally any form of public transportation, [even walking. ](https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/pedestrian_safety/index.html)

    I know this won’t clear your fear or anxiety right away, but it’s good first step to know, especially if getting on that plane is preventing you from seeing the world, seeing your family, or just being your best person.

  18. TheDovahofSkyrim February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    Tragic and one of my biggest fears. Must have been sheer terror for the people on board. Simply tragic.

  19. Manginaz February 12, 2018 / 7:00 am

    If you sorted this by ‘new’, there are a lot of really dumb comments ahead. Proceed with caution.

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