29 thoughts on “Sweden’s governing Social Democrats pledge to ban religious schools

  1. autotldr March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-03-13/sweden-s-social-democrats-pledges-to-ban-religious-schools?__twitter_impression=true) reduced by 62%. (I’m a bot)
    > Sweden's governing Social Democrats pledged to ban religious schools in an effort to combat segregation, as it outlines its education policy ahead of this year's general election.

    > "In our schools, teachers and principals should make the decisions, not priests or imams," Minister for Upper Secondary School and Adult Education and Training Anna Ekstrom said at a press conference in Stockholm.

    > Shekarabi, who grew up with gender-segregated schools with religious influence in Iran, said in the statement that he will "Never accept that the oppression that I and many with me have fled from will find its way into the Swedish education system.”

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  2. Cahootie March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    A tip to everybody reading on their computer:

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  3. Dr-Pepper-Phd March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    If any religion is to be taught, it could be offered as an elective subject in higher education. The main reason why religious schools exist is to indoctrinate young minds at an early age with opinions and beliefs before these minds can start reasoning on their own.

    Since religious texts have such high tendency to get misinterpreted by followers, they should be taught only when the student has reached a mature frame of mind to grasp it correctly. Even Einstein’s theory of relativity is introduced when certain basics of physics are understood as a prerequisite. Imagine teaching the theory of relativity to a flat earther, for example.

  4. moderate-painting March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    I agree with Daniel Dennett’s approach. Teach everyone about all religions. As long as we do that, no need to ban religious teachings.

  5. bangkokscenes1024 March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    if a private islamic school should not be allowed to teach islam to kids, should parents be allowed to “indoctrinate” them? if religious indoctrination is really that bad, why should any religion for anyone who isn’t a legal ally be ok?

  6. SoleHunt3r March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    Canada, Quebec banned all religious teaching in schools and religious seminars with priests after the 90’s. They do teach the impact of religion on the human culture and how it shaped the world as we know it but only if you take history in college, “literal” teaching of the gospel is illegal. I had a philosophy teacher in college who almost lost his job because he was playing on thin line of religious discussions.

  7. ehImCanadian March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    I’m not religious, but having the government say to parents you can’t send your kids to a school of your choosing with private funds is just dictatorial.

    If a parent wants to teach their kids somthing the government has no right to intervene even if the teachings are deemed bad to some.

    Again I’m not religious, I don’t belive religion should play a role in government and at the same time I don’t think government should play in the lives of people wanting to teach their kids a certain way.

  8. KimjioSenpai March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    I’m from Singapore and we have religious schools here. But that’s where the differences end. They are pretty much free to teach what they want as Long as the follow the guidelines set by the government. The students also have to pass national exams at 12 years old. If a certain percentage of the students do not obtain a pass, the school risks getting their funding cut and shut down.

    That’s a pretty good way to Ensure children’s education do not get waylaid by religious studies.

  9. redditFTW1 March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    Hey look it’s something fascists and communists agree with…..

  10. UncleDan2017 March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    Good. The only religion that should be taught in a school is a comparative religion type overview class of all the world’s religions. That type of class really isn’t suitable for less than Junior/Senior level at high school anyway.

  11. brave_at_work March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    This is a false promise to gather some votes in the upcoming September election.

  12. rbaronex March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    Good riddance. Make religious institutions taxes too.

    Edit – pay taxes

  13. old2323 March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    I’ve got to move to Sweden

  14. Omnomcologyst March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    As much as I dislike religion, they should still be allowed to have their own schools and such if they want. Tax them, and don’t support it with public funds, but if a community wants it, they should be allowed to have it in my opinion.

    EDIT: I get it, the kids don’t have a choice if the parents force them to go. I agree with this statement.

  15. R3d_d347h March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    Glad my Government allows families to decide if they want their children to attend a religious school.

    Also, taxes suck.

  16. Fuck_Fascists March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    Good! Every child should have the right to a quality secular education.

  17. CookiesAndCremation March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    This is the pendulum swing from forcing every school to be religious. Authoritarians are cancer.

  18. RadCentrist March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    Why punish Christian schools when they’re only doing this because of the integration failures from their Muslim population?

  19. tinoynk March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    Call me crazy, but adults believing in magic is not a good thing. If you want to believe in magic that’s fine, but you shouldn’t expect others to not think you’re fucking insane for believing in a magic space wizard.

  20. Princesspowerarmor March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    Why do we have to expose our children to your cult, if you want your kid to be religous teach them yourselves nutty assholes.

  21. Jihad-me-at-hello March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    Impossible! T_D says that Sweden is in utter chaos and the people are raped 25/8

  22. UnPanderersYouTube March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    De-funding them seems reasonable, but forcing ideological integration is a bit troubling.

  23. AiogbZuyzn2 March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    This law will probably not go through, they do not have majority support in the parliament. Only the Social Democrats and the Green party are for this and they make up about 30-35% of MPs.

  24. BadassDeluxe March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    Awesome and amazingly progressive move. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

  25. thothisgod24 March 14, 2018 / 5:54 am

    This might be inner atheist but I find this a great move. It will kill segregation from the immigrant population and allow molding into Swedish culture. I assume things to be rocky as some parents might oppose, or other aspects might become an issue. But in the long term, this is great.

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