49 thoughts on “The market has spoken – clean energy just became the cheapest source of electricity

  1. mrnick1537 February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Someone should tell my energy provider I get charged an extra 5c per kilowatt hour to use green energy supplied by them

  2. TrueDeceiver February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Did anyone even read the article?

    A utility company just collected bids from energy producers to build new production facilities, generators, etc. Not that they implemented anything, it was just them collecting bids. So they’re basing this off of bids, that can and will change, to say that clean is currently the cheapest?

    What was the point of this article.


    Ah this all makes sense now.

    *P.S. thank you for the gold, stranger.*

  3. seriouspostsonlybitc February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    This is always untrue.

    Gets posted every week.

    Im on the green side here, but stop lying about it please journalists.

  4. reee_male February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    What click bait BS lol. They bid on a project lower than some other companies lmao.

  5. yes_nuclear_power February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Such distortions.
    It is sad because getting the answer right is important for our survival.
    Solar and wind are not cheaper when all costs like storage, intermittency, and transmission costs are factored in.
    This is not to say we should not do it but let’s be honest.

  6. Oldskoolguitar February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    And it is booming, try and get in on that ground floor folks.

  7. LondonSeoul February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Thank goodness POTUS didn’t make campaign pledges to rebirth the dying coal industry. That could have been embarrassing…

  8. politicalgatoraide February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Oh is it the weekend again? This has been the title of articles since 2014, every one of them omits a big fat asterisk.

  9. NoPantsBaby February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    That’s great… until Winter comes around. Then all those dirty coal plants suddenly have to start up again because production drops several tens of percents.

    Also energy bills are through the roof in Germany despite their 100% commitment to Green energy….

    Face it chaps. Nuclear is the cheapest if people would just get over their fucking hysteria about it.

  10. yik77 February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Pardon me, but, if it is so cheap, in fact the cheapest of all sources, why do we still subsidize it?

  11. Skiingfun February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Meanwhile, in Ontario Canada, our government screwed us by locking us into decades at .80+ per kw hr.

  12. StoneStalwart February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    I’ll believe it when I see it. It’s all theoretical until I see a local solar/battery install and my electric rate drops.

  13. super_ag February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Great! As a mostly Libertarian, let’s now end all subsidies to energy producers, both “clean” and traditional and let the market continue to decide.

  14. Osskyw2 February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Was it the market though? Isn’t renewable energy heavily subsidised in many countries?

  15. mtdyson February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    The Energy will be cheaper, for the supplier not the customers. Did anyone actually believe that savings would be passed down to the consumer???? Lol that would take money away from shareholders had top exec’s.

  16. Komikaze06 February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Tell that to my house in Ohio, I feel lile we barely have enough sun to even melt the damn snow

  17. greatorder February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    I swear it’s become the cheapest source of electricity about 5 times in the last few years.

  18. AM_SQUIRREL February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    “The market has spoken”, by applying tariffs, fees and regulations on energy that is dirty at the point of creation, and glossing over the fact that “clean energy” relocates pollution to the third world countries where they have lakes of yellow toxic sludge from making solar panels and batteries with no regard for environmental protection.

    But yeah, it was totally the free market.

  19. llamaDev February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Article is light on details and not even sure of the actual cost or availability of the renewable energy. Sounds nice but not very convincing imo.

  20. Daddycool303 February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    no more subsidies! sounds like they can compete on their own

  21. Tapprunner February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    For Godsake, stop the misleading claims and headlines!

    “Yes, 3.6 cents per kilowatt hour for solar + storage is the same as the marginal cost of operating a coal plant. Xcel did not provide details on how much storage was included in the bids so it’s likely that true 24/7 electricity would require more storage than was bid.”

    12 paragraphs in, they actually say that it isn’t cheaper!

    I look forward to the day when coal is gone and our air pollution is severely limited. But can we, for the love of God, stop lying about clean energy? It isn’t cheaper! And that’s ok – prices are coming down and the tech is getting better all the time. It will get there.

    In the meantime, can people just stop lying about it?

  22. AceWayne4 February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    How does this affect someone living in the upper midwest? Haven’t seen the sun in a long time.

  23. FountainsOfFluids February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    I’m a big fan of clean energy, but it’s a lie to pretend this is “the market” speaking. There are subsidies all over the place.

    Unless you include political pressure from progressives as part of the market.

  24. L0rddaniel February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    I live in central Minnesota. Xcel energy is the dominant power company here. 40+ acre solar gardens have been going up in every surrounding town for the past couple of years. I can think of 4 within a 30 minute drive of my house.

  25. oliverbm February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Walking has long been the cheapest form of transport

  26. Etherius February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Question: does this include subsidies?

    It’s not legitimately cheap if they’re receiving subsidies…

  27. keypuncher February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Haven’t we already been told this half a dozen times over the last decade?

  28. Qwertydad February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Duke power just charged $27.23 for selling me clean energy? That was on a $333.57 power bill.

  29. puffferfish February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    I feel like I read every month that a certain type of clean energy, either solar or wind power is now the cheapest form of energy. Probably for the past 3 years at least.

  30. Snapzz_911 February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    What specialization of engineering should I go into so I can be apart of this great renewable development?

  31. giannipunawny February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Yet another example of people seeing the surface layer only. Clean energy is heavily subsidized. A lot of the cost is prepaid so to speak by those subsidies. It is NOT the cheapest form of energy.

  32. PMmePMmePMmePMme February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Bullshit. Nuclear energy is cheaoer for us and the nature.

  33. msolace February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Does this study take subsidized tax credit/breaks into account, or the cost of environmental impact ?

    Example of negatives:

    * Health problems introduced in silica/cobalt mining (non-clean have this issue as well)
    * Also, polluting ground water
    * impact of creating water dams
    * wind propellers killing so many birds they have to have government exemptions decimating whole species.
    * Ground pollution from batteries

    Never mind not even a study, but the above is good things to thing about. Not that understanding how much death happens to make your iphone will stop you from wanting a new one every year.

  34. manspyder February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    No the market hasn’t spoken. Govt subsidies have spoken.

  35. Twilightdusk February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Downvoted just because headlines of this nature have been trumpted for months, each one claiming to *really* be the moment where clean energy is cheaper now for reals.

  36. Studdabaker February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Free market my ass! The reason the other energy is more expensive is because of regulations.
    It would be like comparing an iphone to a medical device.

  37. hatrickkane88 February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Boo – let’s subsidize coal and get back to how things were in the 60s!

  38. Mr-period February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Which is why we will never switch to clean energy.

    No profit.

  39. Squirrleyd February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    It’s always been the cheapest. There’s basically 0 costs once the infrastructure is set up. The problem is that we can’t control the power demanded, and it doesn’t always line up with when power is available i.e. windy or sunny days. Green energy is truly the future once battery technology allows us to store the energy for future use. Until then natural gas is the best way to create a stable electrical grid.

  40. illuzion987 February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Let me know when solar power is actually cheap. 5000 to screw up my roof ain’t worth it.

  41. jeff1328 February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Yeah but have you heard of this new thing called beautiful clean coal? Heard it’s a game changer…./s

  42. Pequeno_loco February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Yea, not trusting a blog I’ve never heard of shilling solar and wind anymore than I would trust one shilling coal. Doubt I’m getting the full unbiased story here.

  43. TheCrazedTank February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    This just in: US President calls for the resignation of the head of the Free Market because of a liberal, partisan bias, not realising no such position exists and that the “Free Market” is a economic system and not a bureau of the federal government.

  44. FlotsamOfThe4Winds February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    It’s the cheapest source of energy- for Colorado, before removing possible rebates that may make it appear a lot cheaper than it actually is.

  45. Auss_man February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    question, does calling it clean make it more attractive?

    Has anyone researched what goes into making lithium cells and solar panels in Chinese factories? it’s anything but “clean”

  46. errdiablo February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    Interesting but this missed a few technologies: Natural Gas Generators at 2-3 cents per kWh. Nuclear at 2-5 cents per kWh. Wind will be the cheapest in the long run, but remember the wind is not always blowing. Hopefully, storage technology improves significantly in the near future. Also, the comparison chart is calling out residential rates, as if the bills were only dependent on the generation; there are transmission, distribution, and retail costs. And, if you are in an at risk area, there may be recovery costs added to your bill.

  47. Satan_Battles February 12, 2018 / 10:51 am

    B-but the US left the Paris Climate accord… this can’t be possible! The free market can’t do this on its own…

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